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    • Originally posted by Banuthev View Post
      VS was the first airline to take the delivery of the A340-600 but they have now phase-out four/five of the A340-600s this year as this aircraft has clearly proved them it is un-ecnomical with a higher-fuel consumptions. I wonder what's the future of A340-600 going to be. Is there any way Airbus can make the A346 as a profitable aircraft for airlines ?

      with the 346, airlines have one less thing to worry when it comes to ETOPS

      Well, Singapore and KUL does see a few long distance non-Stop charters, on LH 346s, and one LH 346 is known to do Munich-Hawaii non-stop for a charter, regularly ..

      Yes, it does have the legs, albeit not economical, and going non-stop over water is a big benefit I guess ..

      I remember the olden VS having the logos 4 engines 4 long haul .. now they are quitely going twin engines for long haul !!!

      In reality, A346 isn't that uneconomical. Say, for UL, they have sufficient load factors, they could wet- or dry-lease an A346 to fly CMB-LHR or EWR/YVR or so .. if they are keen.

      TAM is very happy with the 345s, came at a low lease rate and is able to fill the niche non-stop to FRA

      Saw the following, re: numbers of 345 vs 772L .. not accurate, but you get the idea .. and that is based on the 345/346 non HGW versions .. the HGW versions burn lesser fuel ...

      From what I can gather the 345 burns 10%+ more fuel than a 77L. that means on a run like TAM's to FRA they are probably burning <10,000 litres more fuel than a 77L each way. At a buck a litre, that's $10,000 a day in extra fuel cost, or $40 per seat penalty each way.

      Another way to lookat it is that it cost over $3 million more per year to fly this plane. If you can lease it for say $3 million less than a 77L it makes financial sense.
      Last edited by ecureilx; 20-12-2012, 07:41 AM.

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      • Originally posted by SpookyFlyer View Post
        another charter????
        CMB is currently becoming a hot-spot for surprise visitors! Is this A320 or A321. My guess would be it is Donbass Aero - http://www.planespotters.net/Aviatio...show?id=315304. When was this photo taken? What time?

        Originally posted by umedhah View Post
        Hi Banu Thev Air-Sri Lanka these pics were taken Changi Airport Terminal 2 on 3rd of Dec & last 2 at BIA CMB sorry for the bad Quality ( last 2 pics) SQ really strict on using electronic devices while on Taxi / Take Off & Landing... so i had to use without the flash :S
        How was the load-factor on AKL-SIN-CMB-SIN-AKL flight ? Does SQ fly A380 to AKL ?

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        • Originally posted by Banuthev View Post
          CMB is currently becoming a hot-spot for surprise visitors! Is this A320 or A321. My guess would be it is Donbass Aero - http://www.planespotters.net/Aviatio...show?id=315304. When was this photo taken? What time?
          yesterday (20th) at about 0850h

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          • Originally posted by Banuthev View Post
            CMB is currently becoming a hot-spot for surprise visitors! Is this A320 or A321. My guess would be it is Donbass Aero - http://www.planespotters.net/Aviatio...show?id=315304. When was this photo taken? What time?
            yesterday (20th) at about 0850h

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            • SriLankan A320 4R-ABL circling above our house this morning!!! .. Was circling for approx 10 -15 mins. Possible maintenance check or awaiting landing clearance??? Can someone update plz????



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              • Originally posted by umedhah View Post
                SriLankan A320 4R-ABL circling above our house this morning!!! .. Was circling for approx 10 -15 mins. Possible maintenance check or awaiting landing clearance??? Can someone update plz????
                What time did you take these pictures ?
                By the way 4R-ABL operated as UL226 DXB-CMB delayed by 15 minutes, today. Guys, Any idea why this flight was delayed?

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                • Originally posted by Banuthev View Post
                  What time did you take these pictures ?
                  By the way 4R-ABL operated as UL226 DXB-CMB delayed by 15 minutes, today. Guys, Any idea why this flight was delayed?
                  Hi Banu it was around 0745-0800 this morning.
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                  • Originally posted by umedhah View Post
                    Hi Banu it was around 0745-0800 this morning.
                    UL226 landed at 05:05. Perhaps you saw was a training or a maintenance flight. anyway i will confirm with you soon..

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                    • A346 has failed with most carriers...performance and fuel consumption issues, thats why the 777-300ER has been a roaring success vs the 346 which is now out of production! Unless UL gets them really cheap to offset the fuel burn loss over its working life, it does not make sense. If UL needs a 350 seater long ranger, the 777-300ER is the best choice. If they need a sub-300 seater 2 class aircraft the A330-300 is the best choice.

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                      • sm777: (I guess your nic shows your are biased against anything Airbus ) ..

                        FYI, A345/A346 production hasn't ended.

                        Airbus uses a common production line, so if a customer needs, they can gear up and build a couple of A 345 or A 346s, on demand ..

                        See, your recommendation for 777-300ER is wonderful, but, the point you and a lot of people are missing is .. Where is the $$$$ ?

                        Even PR can find funds for brand new 773ERs, while UL is struggling financially to even refleet with the existing Airbus kits .. i.e. lower integration costs since crew commonality is there with any Airbus product ..

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                        • wats wrong with an A345????...........it has huge range (2nd overall) and can carry more PAX than A343, A333 and B772.........and most importantly it can be easily used on BIA's parking bays and taxiways!!!!!

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                          • BIA cannot accomadate 345. Even we can accomodate 3 773's at once. In alpha bay. Bravo bay we can go upto 343. Charley bay we can acmdate 343,777,747. But not 345.

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                            • Dilusha...A340-500 is a ULR (ultra long range ac)...extra fuel tanks and all...unless UL uses it on long haul 15-17hr flights with 80%+ occupancy, its not going to make money...also, most other airlines which made the mistake of picking up the 345 are either storing them or selling them off...only 40 or so units were built. Not a good choice at all. I will repeat (my opinion)

                              1. B777-300ER if UL needs a 3-class 350 seater airplane ( 8F / 30 J / 312 Y in 10 abreast) or 2-class close to 400 seats...but methinks this one will be too large for UL + availability of new build 77Ws may be an issue.

                              2. A330-300 if UL needs a 2-class 290 seater. Jet Airways has just picked up 3 A330-300s to be used on BOM-BRU-EWR, it has 258Y/34J total 292. I think this is ideal for UL since it doesn't have a first class and 2 class 292 seater is a good option, it has good range + not as thirsty as a 77W and a tad more efficient than a 77E.

                              Also the A330-300 will be accomodated in the bays too since its wingspan is the same as your 343s and 332s. So no problems here either.

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                              • Does it really look like I am "biased" against Airbus ? Copy pasting from my post above again so please R E A D what I write P R O P E R L Y

                                2. A330-300 if UL needs a 2-class 290 seater. Jet Airways has just picked up 3 A330-300s to be used on BOM-BRU-EWR, it has 258Y/34J total 292. I think this is ideal for UL since it doesn't have a first class and 2 class 292 seater is a good option, it has good range + not as thirsty as a 77W and a tad more efficient than a 77E.

                                Also the A330-300 will be accomodated in the bays too since its wingspan is the same as your 343s and 332s. So no problems here either.

                                From the above, does it look like I am recommending 777-300ER for SriLankan ? Simple english and common sense says I am not.

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