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**NeatStuff** · 17-11-2015, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by edthenna View Post

Many members expressed their disagreement to my analysis. I respect all their views and disagreements.

I am no MR fan and never will be.

Undoubtedly MR is the main contributor for the colossal loss UL is making now.

But my analysis is to explain the sequence of events that made UL to specifically close the European network

ME3 carriers had a strategic approach to go away from the typical labour traffic from Colombo and absorb business travellers, long haul traffic and front cabin traffic over the last 5 years. I know they reached their ambitious targets on CMB. In the meantime UL continue to claim they have 80+% load factor in their flights. If the scale of economics were done properly how did European sectors made such a loss with that number of Load Factor?

I propose members to rethink my argument....did they really lose their Frequent flyers of Europe & North America to ME3 carriers or not? I know they lost, and what number of them were premium travelers? Did UL gain back those lost to their current frequent flyer program?

Of course we can blame MR for UL losses but you cannot blame him for losing traffic to Europe which was rightfully UL’s?

I highly doubt EK's meteoric rise has anything to do with stealing a handful of premium frequent flyers from UL.

In fact, EK cares little for its frequent flyers. I know this as a former regular EK flyer, they keep devaluing their programme. I gave up on them and moved to EY, which has also now followed EK and begun devaluing their programme as well.

EK relies mostly on one time flyers. They have in place a proper strategy and have had so for years and have provided an amazing hard product along with good service.

Ask yourself this question, why did an airline which was many times the size of UL have to steal frequent flying premium pax from UL to fuel its growth. UL was but a small cog in the grand machine that is EK.

UL's downfall is purely down to the mismanagement of a megalomaniac and his coterie of hanger ons.

**Sandaru** · 17-11-2015, 01:36 PM

Sri Lanka has approved a Bilateral Air Service Agreement with Serbia. Under the deal, designated airlines from both countries, which include Air Serbia, SriLankan Airlines and Mihin Lanka, can operate up to seven weekly flights between the two countries using third and fourth freedom rights. Additionally, Air Serbia has been approved fifth freedom rights if it uses a new airport on the island's south that has failed to draw customers. The Sri Lankan government's spokesman, Rajitha Senaratne, said the Bilateral Air Service Agreement between Sri Lanka and Serbia would help develop air services and tourism. “Especially, Mattala International Airport can be used by allowing Serbian aircraft to fly to other countries”, he told a news conference. Mattala Airport has been criticised for its inability to draw airlines several years after being built with Chinese loans. The agreement also allows airlines from each country to operate unrestricted passenger charter flights between Sri Lanka and Serbia.

Source - www.exyuaviation.com http://www.exyuaviation.com/p/serbia...teral-air.html

**Speedbird** · 17-11-2015, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by ecureilx View Post

I am not sure what you said there, but I totally agree with you

Nice one LMAO

**Speedbird** · 17-11-2015, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by edthenna View Post

...
I propose members to rethink my argument....did they really lose their Frequent flyers of Europe & North America to ME3 carriers or not? I know they lost, and what number of them were premium travelers? Did UL gain back those lost to their current frequent flyer program?...

Loss of UL Premium passengers; was mainly due to quality of the product and service was not par with ME3 or any Asian airlines.

**Aaqib** · 18-11-2015, 03:01 PM

SriLankan Airlines to begin flights to Vishakapatnam

SriLankan Airlines would be starting a scheduled service to Vishakapatnam commencing on the 15th of February 2016

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**banuthev** · 18-11-2015, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Aaqib View Post

SriLankan Airlines would be starting a scheduled service to Vishakapatnam commencing on the 15th of February 2016

http://www.newindianexpress.com/stat...cle2908171.ece

Thanks for the news! Wow! How did you findout UL to commence VTZ flights from 15 Feb 2016. Good to hear its going to be finally materialised but They have been planning this route for over 2 years.

**banuthev** · 18-11-2015, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by RAHALROXZ View Post

Hello
As you may already know it is now flying to heathrow under UL503

I don't think they will expans the network because there is no addition to the fleet in fact as another aircraft is about to e taken away from the service. ALG lease return check is
Scheduled to be started by 15th of December... ADF was in hangar for a couple of weeks and now she is about to rejoin the fleet and will fly until late January as far as I kmow ( or probably until ALG is finished) ...
Cheers

Is 4R-ALG going to be scrapped? Can't UL be able to extend the lease agreements for those A332s if they are in the flying condition for next few years? UL recently announced they will cancel the european routes (exc LHR) so no point of having A350 in the fleet when they have a very few long haul routes. So I feel that UL better delay the A350 deliveries until they back to normal. May be those 3 A350 ordered from ILFC should be cancelled or changed to A332s instead of A350s. UL should be taking the direct orders of 4 A350 from Airbus to avoid the heavy penalty charges for cancelling the order. In my humble opinion only LHR & NRT are capable of meeting the demand of UL's A350 other long haul routes easily be served by A332/A333s.

**abhijith16** · 19-11-2015, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by Aaqib View Post

SriLankan Airlines would be starting a scheduled service to Vishakapatnam commencing on the 15th of February 2016

http://www.newindianexpress.com/stat...cle2908171.ece

I hope UL takes their word with Indian expansion, and adds IXE, PNQ, AMD and resume their old CJB & CCJ flights. There's so much potential for SriLankan to take this traffic now that India is tightening bilateral expansion.

**Aaqib** · 19-11-2015, 03:22 AM

Saudia to Commence JED-MLE-CMB Route

SV JED-CMB to operate via MLE but without 5th freedom rights.
Saudia in summer 2016 season is introducing scheduled operation to Maldives, on board 341-seater (J14Y327) Boeing 777-200ER aircraft. From 30MAR16, the Skyteam member will be offering twice weekly operation on Jeddah – Male – Colombo route, operating on Wednesdays and Sundays.
SV786 JED0035 – 0805MLE0925 – 1130CMB 772 37
SV787 CMB1310 – 1410MLE1530 – 1915JED 772 37

**Aaqib** · 19-11-2015, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by abhijith16 View Post

I hope UL takes their word with Indian expansion, and adds IXE, PNQ, AMD and resume their old CJB & CCJ flights. There's so much potential for SriLankan to take this traffic now that India is tightening bilateral expansion.

I agree with you....they should benefit quite a bit from increasing frequencies to the Indian Sub-continent.....they should also take GOI and HYD into consideration
@abhijith16 any information on the re-naming of the TRZ airport?

**abhijith16** · 19-11-2015, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by Aaqib View Post

I agree with you....they should benefit quite a bit from increasing frequencies to the Indian Sub-continent.....they should also take GOI and HYD into consideration
@abhijith16 any information on the re-naming of the TRZ airport?

Yes yes, HYD, PNQ, AMD has to be timed to connect to Southeast Asia, while IXE, CCJ, CJB, GOI should be timed to both GCC and Southeast Asia. SriLankan has to reinvigorate the old India strategy.

P.S - I don't think they are renaming TRZ at all.

**4R-ALA** · 19-11-2015, 07:34 AM

QR A321 A7-AIB has positioned itself to shannon as per QR SOURCE.COM. Is this by any chance the 3rd A321 for UL??

**abhijith16** · 19-11-2015, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by 4R-ALA View Post

QR A321 A7-AIB has positioned itself to shannon as per QR SOURCE.COM. Is this by any chance the 3rd A321 for UL??

It says it's headed for Maintenance, so probably not.

**4R-ALA** · 19-11-2015, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by abhijith16 View Post

It says it's headed for Maintenance, so probably not.

But as per QR SOURCE.COM, a321 a7-aia had maintenance done in Doha itself. hence thats why i was wondering.

**mohamed_naqeeb** · 19-11-2015, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by banuthev View Post

Is 4R-ALG going to be scrapped? Can't UL be able to extend the lease agreements for those A332s if they are in the flying condition for next few years? UL recently announced they will cancel the european routes (exc LHR) so no point of having A350 in the fleet when they have a very few long haul routes. So I feel that UL better delay the A350 deliveries until they back to normal. May be those 3 A350 ordered from ILFC should be cancelled or changed to A332s instead of A350s. UL should be taking the direct orders of 4 A350 from Airbus to avoid the heavy penalty charges for cancelling the order. In my humble opinion only LHR & NRT are capable of meeting the demand of UL's A350 other long haul routes easily be served by A332/A333s.

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