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  • Originally posted by lordvader View Post
    The Premier also explained to the House that the Government was faced with no choice but to go ahead with the purchase of four Airbus A350-900 aircraft for SriLankan Airlines, because reneging on the order made by the previous Government would result in Sri Lanka having to pay USD 1.5 million each in demurrages. The Government would have to follow through on the purchases, even though the national carrier was making huge losses, Wickremesinghe explained.

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    • Originally posted by Max View Post
      Sri Lanka having to pay USD 1.5 million each
      Given the list price of A359 being USD 305M and knowing that UL does not get EK style discounts anymore, USD 1.5M each is a very very small price to pay as a penalty.

      If UL does not have a business case for A350, why not pay the USD 6M and cancel the order. I expected the penalty to be far far greater than that (at least 20 times larger).

      I am not saying USD 6M is chump change, but it is a drop in the ocean in the big scheme if things assuming that UL have to pay close to USD 1B for the 4 A359s. Spending USD 6M now and cutting it lose will be infinitely better than getting stuck with an aircraft that they do not want, for the next 15-20 years and losing hundreds of millions of dollars during its lifetime.

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      • Originally posted by lordvader View Post
        This. Plus since the first three A350s are on lease, UL will still have to pay the lease on the aircraft if they are stored till next year. So the storage rumour doesnt make sense. But who knows.
        Exactly!!! Some people have mixed up the 3 aircraft on lease and the 4 which are directly ordered from Airbus

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        • Originally posted by Cayman View Post
          Given the list price of A359 being USD 305M and knowing that UL does not get EK style discounts anymore, USD 1.5M each is a very very small price to pay as a penalty.

          If UL does not have a business case for A350, why not pay the USD 6M and cancel the order. I expected the penalty to be far far greater than that (at least 20 times larger).

          I am not saying USD 6M is chump change, but it is a drop in the ocean in the big scheme if things assuming that UL have to pay close to USD 1B for the 4 A359s. Spending USD 6M now and cutting it lose will be infinitely better than getting stuck with an aircraft that they do not want, for the next 15-20 years and losing hundreds of millions of dollars during its lifetime.
          Why waste 6 million? It would be a better option if Airbus is willing to negotiate to move the deposit to any other aircraft (330 Neo?), the 332s need to be replaced anyways.

          Does UL own any aircraft outright now? IIRC all the older ones were sold and leased back and I think the same is happening with the new ones as well even if they are ordered direct from Airbus?

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          • Originally posted by Srilankan1 View Post
            means Airbus will store the AC for 1 year period???? cant imagine .
            Can't locate the article that mentioned the deferral - will keep looking. It talked about deferral to early 2017 - so about 6 months.

            It does happen that customers don't take delivery as scheduled - new aircraft do end up in temporary storage. Conditions will be agreed between the leasing company and the Airline.

            A350 order is al total disaster either way for Sri Lankan taxpayers.

            Another day - another Donkey gets appointed.....



            Colombo Telegraph may not be the greatest standard of journalism but they are the only paper reporting on the ongoing corruption at the Airline.

            Nobody seems interested in running the Airline. What a mess.
            Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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            • Originally posted by ejanson65 View Post

              Another day - another Donkey gets appointed.....



              Colombo Telegraph may not be the greatest standard of journalism but they are the only paper reporting on the ongoing corruption at the Airline.

              Nobody seems interested in running the Airline. What a mess.
              Lets hope that this guy has some other skills which could be utilised in his new position!

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              • Originally posted by dilushasg-bdavi View Post
                Exactly!!! Some people have mixed up the 3 aircraft on lease and the 4 which are directly ordered from Airbus
                According to local media sources, UL have been trying to re-negotiate with Airbus inorder to convert the order of 8 A359s with small aircraft which could support the short haul network. Does it even makes sense? UL didn't even ordered 8 A359s directly from Airbus.

                UL actually had signed the firm-order agreement with Airbus for only 4 A359s and signed the MOU with Aercap for 3 units of A359s on 12 years operating lease. Not sure about the 8th A350. In my humble opinion, If UL doesn't want those 4 A359s they should sell them to some leasing company and lease back the aircraft which could support their current business model. But UL should take delivery of those 3 A359s from Aercap on operating-lease to serve destinations like London, Beijing, Tokyo etc.. UL needs acquire minimum of few more widebody aircraft to replace ageing Six A332 fleet.

                “They (the previous government) had agreed to buy four A350-900 planes and lease another four,” he said. “We have not paid a deposit, but if we default we have to pay a penalty of $12 million.” “We are stuck. We have to review the deal and take a decision if we are going ahead with the purchase or not.”


                UL has to be managed by the Airline Industry Experts not by the Politician' stooges.

                Originally posted by LukeSkywalker View Post
                Why waste 6 million? It would be a better option if Airbus is willing to negotiate to move the deposit to any other aircraft (330 Neo?), the 332s need to be replaced anyways.

                Does UL own any aircraft outright now? IIRC all the older ones were sold and leased back and I think the same is happening with the new ones as well even if they are ordered direct from Airbus?
                No UL doesn't own any aircraft right now. Those new A330-300s were sold and leased back from lessors.

                Originally posted by Haleef View Post
                Cool! Will be waiting
                Do you know what registration these 3 A359s going to be receive?

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                • Originally posted by banuthev View Post
                  According to local media sources, UL have been trying to re-negotiate with Airbus inorder to convert the order of 8 A359s with small aircraft which could support the short haul network. Does it even makes sense? UL didn't even ordered 8 A359s directly from Airbus.

                  UL actually had signed the firm-order agreement with Airbus for only 4 A359s and signed the MOU with Aercap for 3 units of A359s on 12 years operating lease. Not sure about the 8th A350. In my humble opinion, If UL doesn't want those 4 A359s they should sell them to some leasing company and lease back the aircraft which could support their current business model. But UL should take delivery of those 3 A359s from Aercap on operating-lease to serve destinations like London, Beijing, Tokyo etc.. UL needs acquire minimum of few more widebody aircraft to replace ageing Six A332 fleet.



                  UL has to be managed by the Airline Industry Experts not by the Politician' stooges.



                  No UL doesn't own any aircraft right now. Those new A330-300s were sold and leased back from lessors.



                  Do you know what registration these 3 A359s going to be receive?
                  No idea yet.
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                  • New dimension plan upswings for Sri Lanka's national carrier to revive the cash-strapped position into a country's top flagship position ,it has been given a opportunity to choose two breakthrough deals with Qatar airways and the Maldives government in the near future, however with the aim of turning SriLankan Airlines into a profit-making venture,Mihin Air would be integrated and the senior management of the Airline has invited the Airline’s staff to share their innovative ideas and the 'Red to Black’ Campaign was initiated to foster closer relationship with the staff thoughts on initiatives that can be taken to reduce losses and optimize cost as the Airline seeks to make progressive steps towards profitability.

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                    • Originally posted by suganya07 View Post
                      New dimension plan upswings for Sri Lanka's national carrier to revive the cash-strapped position into a country's top flagship position ,it has been given a opportunity to choose two breakthrough deals with Qatar airways and the Maldives government in the near future, however with the aim of turning SriLankan Airlines into a profit-making venture,Mihin Air would be integrated and the senior management of the Airline has invited the Airline’s staff to share their innovative ideas and the 'Red to Black’ Campaign was initiated to foster closer relationship with the staff thoughts on initiatives that can be taken to reduce losses and optimize cost as the Airline seeks to make progressive steps towards profitability.
                      Ummmmm..... are you quoting from some very old news story?

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                      • Originally posted by LukeSkywalker View Post
                        Ummmmm..... are you quoting from some very old news story?
                        No Dear! Its a hot news.Please check the below link



                        Hope it helps

                        cheers
                        xx

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                        • Originally posted by suganya07 View Post
                          No Dear! Its a hot news.Please check the below link



                          Hope it helps

                          cheers
                          xx
                          Thanks ! I am not sure how very accurate this reporting is; Maldives does have it's national carrier (though it is mostly regional now).

                          If UL can negotiate 5th freedom flights for other destinations from Maldives in addition to UK it will be good; it seems strange that the Maldivians would want to sign a deal instead of developing their own fledgling airline.

                          Al Baker didn't want anything to do with UL according to reports when he was invited...

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                          • Originally posted by LukeSkywalker View Post
                            Thanks ! I am not sure how very accurate this reporting is; Maldives does have it's national carrier (though it is mostly regional now).
                            Maldive (air) is doing just OK, and with the domestic competition, I doubt they will expand much, unless an investor comes on board. That's just my 2 cents though.

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                            • Another good article.



                              The one thing people keep missing is that UL is not a business - it's a wealth transfer vehicle.

                              Most people are just there to maximise their own salary and benefits. There is nothing that indicates anyone is interested in running this as a business.

                              Most of the management are not even qualified to hold their positions - this pack of clowns couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag imho!

                              Ajith Dias still talking about profitabilty in 3 years - I can't take anything he says seriously.

                              Now they can't even decide what to do - all decisions are being over-ruled by the GOSL. GOSL doesn't know if it's coming or going imho!

                              And then there's this....



                              I see the Politicians are very good at protecting themselves. They will be able to shut down any investigation - especially any that threaten to expose their involvement.

                              So no accountabilty and no justice for those of us who are victims of abuse of power.

                              Until this culture of impunity and zero accountability changes it's all a lost cause - that applies to the country as well as the Airline.
                              Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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                              • UL announces suspension of CMB-FCO effective 01MAY16, along with a few other changes to it's network.

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