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  • Originally posted by n863gt View Post

    Is 4R-ALT in UL colors or plain white like ABS?
    4R-ALT is plain white I believe.
    Sien (KR/SL/US)

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    • Originally posted by banuthev View Post

      Last year in Dec23, UL was down with nine aircraft. Was told due to shortage of engineers.

      I wonder why issues are affecting the UL fleet during the peak season.

      I see below are out of service as of today

      AND
      ANE
      ANF
      ALH
      ALL
      ALM
      ALN (from 13-Nov)
      that means the only active A321N is 4R-ANC. wonder what's down with ALN and ALM

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      • Originally posted by WizzWaveSien View Post

        4R-ALT is plain white I believe.
        got it. why isn't UL collecting it yet?

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        • Originally posted by n863gt View Post

          got it. why isn't UL collecting it yet?
          UL is probably waiting after the general election is over so they can collect it I believe. The government plans to restructure UL as soon as the general election is over. Will have to wait and see what happens.
          Sien (KR/SL/US)

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          • 4R-ALL did an engine ground round(EGR005) at around 21:45(+5.30)

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            • Originally posted by WizzWaveSien View Post

              UL is probably waiting after the general election is over so they can collect it I believe. The government plans to restructure UL as soon as the general election is over. Will have to wait and see what happens.
              will hope that restructure happens soon. I really want to see UL having A350s

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              • 4R-ALL's first flight to CDG after inactivity.
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                Sien (KR/SL/US)

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                • Originally posted by WizzWaveSien View Post
                  4R-ALL's first flight to CDG after inactivity.
                  when did UL start flights to CDG?

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                  • Originally posted by n863gt View Post

                    when did UL start flights to CDG?
                    UL began CMB-CDG flights back in the 1980s and they discontinued it back in 2015, they again resumed flights to CDG back in November of 2021.
                    Sien (KR/SL/US)

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                    • Originally posted by n863gt View Post

                      will hope that restructure happens soon. I really want to see UL having A350s
                      UL wants to make A330 family the flagship, they will most likely be sticking to A339s and A338s to replace the aging A333s and A332s, even though the A338 is kinda not really ideal because it has the same range as the A350 but carriers less passengers, so it's better that UL replaces their A333s with A350s and A332s with A339s, this is just my opinion though.

                      What do you think??
                      Sien (KR/SL/US)

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                      • Originally posted by WizzWaveSien View Post

                        UL wants to make A330 family the flagship, they will most likely be sticking to A339s and A338s to replace the aging A333s and A332s, even though the A338 is kinda not really ideal because it has the same range as the A350 but carriers less passengers, so it's better that UL replaces their A333s with A350s and A332s with A339s, this is just my opinion though.

                        What do you think??
                        if UL plans on upgauging their fleet then A359 replaces the A332 and the A35X and a339 replaces the A333(maybe)
                        or..
                        they could go the way you said, A339 for the A332 and A350 for the A333.
                        one thing to consider here is the cost per seat and how much seats actually gets booked on the plane as an %
                        the A359 is only 3m longer than the A339
                        **edit- if anyone's concerned about the new type affecting the pilots, it requires a short period of 'difference training'-- most often taking less than a month(I think)

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                        • Originally posted by WizzWaveSien View Post

                          UL wants to make A330 family the flagship, they will most likely be sticking to A339s and A338s to replace the aging A333s and A332s, even though the A338 is kinda not really ideal because it has the same range as the A350 but carriers less passengers, so it's better that UL replaces their A333s with A350s and A332s with A339s, this is just my opinion though.

                          What do you think??
                          Let me step in, This is my opinion, Currently UL has a huge debt accumulated because of mismanagement of previous governments and politicians (As everyone knows.........) but last few years, UL was experiencing less political interference.

                          Three major points : Inconsistent Hard product across the fleet (Example : cabins/seats across the A320 fleet), Fleet shortage (Repairs and maintenance of current fleet is slow due to lower hangar space and staff shortage, need few more planes), lack of better management practices (Crisis response, Customer care, Lounge facilities)

                          UL management and some part of operations need to be re-structured (example : There was no any plan for passengers who affected due to sudden flight cancellations last few week, Just like crisis response, there were no any management team within the commercial team) (example : in Last 2 - 3 years UL had a operational Net Profit and because of Financial Cost, final figure is a loss)
                          Regarding the fleet, If UL goes with New aircraft model (A350), UL needs to adopt all new engineering and crew training, which is a considerably huge cost for UL. UL should adopt both Short term Fleet upgrade/expansion and a long term fleet renewal. (Focusing on consistent hard product across the fleet)

                          For the short term fleet : UL needs to get A330-300s (-343 RR772B powered, less than 12 years old, on 6 year lease) for long and medium haul operations and also with a cabin overhaul (Lie flat seats 1-2-1 for business, 2-4-2 reclining for Economy), and A320-200s(either -214WL or -232WL powered, less than 12 years old, in 6 years lease) with good cabins.

                          For the long term fleet : UL needs to get (at least 12 jets) A330-900s (-941, with the same cabins, Lie flat seats 1-2-1 for business, 2-4-2 reclining for Economy in total 297pax) and (at least 10 jets) A321neo (s) instead of A320neos ( -251N/NX 12 lie flat business and good seats with Economy). These aircrafts should join with UL by at least 2028.

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